Okay. The reason I asked about the fines and the penalties is that, at the end of the day, a fraud call, whether it's done by a carrier that is stretching the rules or whether it's an outright organized crime thing, it's still the same result for the victim. On the penalties you mentioned in your testimony, this is what I'm trying to get at.
For the $10 million you mentioned—that was your number—I'd like to know, what does that buy for the public in terms of an improved crackdown or stopping fraud calls? What type of an investment and return do we get on that? That's what I'm really seeking with regard to even having this come back to Parliament here. It's how far we've come, but also where we can go. You mentioned $10 million. What does that actually gain for our economy, our consumers and public protection?