We should probably start by dividing up some things, and my colleagues will assist me.
Do not call really relates to telemarketing, and we have a set of rules around it. Then we have CASL, the anti-spam legislation, and that goes to other types of communications. So we have to watch the terminology.
What do not call does is establish a system in Canada for Canadians to put their phone number on a list so they will stop being called by legitimate telemarketers. We police that, and there's a large uptake. My colleagues can give you more specific statistics if you wish. I told you roughly how many numbers. In excess of 14 million Canadians have their number on it.
There's an exemption for charities and surveys. There's an exemption for political parties, which you granted yourselves. We do get lots of complaints asking how come people still get calls from.... We will leave that alone. It is the will of Parliament, and that is fine, of course, but that's not the problem.
The problem is those who either decline—legitimate telemarketers who fail to sign up—or illegitimate ones. The first case we pursue. We get complaints. We identify them. We track them down. Either they sign up or we fine them, and we're pretty good at that, I'll be honest.
The second case is the illegitimate ones. They're not playing.... They could be foreign or domestic. That brings us into that other category, in which lots of activities are coming from abroad. What we do there is not so much an issue of free trade agreements. It's an issue of, first, establishing co-operative mechanisms with other countries, which we've been doing—and I recently revised and modernized agreements with both the United States and Australia to enhance our co-operation—and second, having initiatives like call traceback, which I referred to in my remarks, that will help us figure out where these calls are coming from.
After that, if they're coming from a particular part of the world, then we have to pursue that with foreign officials, and it goes to our enforcement partners and the Department of Justice. At that point it gets more difficult and is in fact largely out of our hands.