—with malicious intent, but they're not criminals unless they're convicted of doing these things. I guess there's really a difference.
They're not using the list. The point is, when you get calls, whether from those using spoofed numbers or others who are ultimately engaging in fraud, they don't care about a list. They're using equipment—Alain, you can help me here—to simply randomly dial. The numbers are typically sequential. They'll sit there and say, “I'm going to dial everybody with a cellphone number beginning with 889”, and then they start dialing them all.