Absolutely: Shell is building a 50-megawatt solar farm that will largely power their chemical plant in Scotford. They also are greatly expanding their carbon capture activities, as Cathy mentioned.
We talk a lot about hydrogen, but these hydrogen projects that are proposed in western Canada.... Because you're so far from the customer, if the customer is in Asia, you're talking about turning the natural gas not into hydrogen but into methanol or ammonia, which then will be shipped to Asia and other markets and used as ammonia fuel, let's call it, or methanol fuel, which has a very high hydrogen content.
Make no mistake: These are chemical-producing facilities, and I'm sure the investors are going to be looking at what the base case is for selling these commodities as methanol or ammonia if there isn't a market that pays for hydrogen fuel.