Sure, but if the you're the minister responsible for the RCMP and you are ultimately responsible for an agency that is doing procurement, or you are in a position, as you are, and you are responsible for procuring, yes, procurement can set certain minimum standards, but surely you can set certain minimum standards too in terms of the companies the RCMP is willing to do business with. It strikes me that we should ensure, at a minimum, that we are not purchasing equipment and not procuring from the worst human rights violators in some cases around the world, which is a low bar, I know, but that might be a minimum.
My last question is for either one of you. Has either of you ever spoken to Ron Deibert?