Evidence of meeting #55 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was industry.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Dina Mainville  Founder and Principal, Collisionless
Daniel Brock  Law Partner, Fasken, Digital Asset Mining Coalition
Geoffrey Morphy  President and Chief Executive Officer, Bitfarms Ltd., Digital Asset Mining Coalition
Sheldon Bennett  Chief Executive Officer, DMG Blockchain Solutions Inc., Digital Asset Mining Coalition
Tamara Rozansky  Partner, Indirect Tax, Deloitte Canada, Digital Asset Mining Coalition
Ethan Buchman  Chief Executive Officer, Informal Systems Inc.
Stephen Oliver  Chief Compliance Officer and Head of Calgary, Tetra Trust Company

6:35 p.m.

Law Partner, Fasken, Digital Asset Mining Coalition

Daniel Brock

You're paying taxes on inputs. When you provide those services, you're charging tax.

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Liberal

Han Dong Liberal Don Valley North, ON

However, in the creation of this coin, there is not a single period of time when the government will be able to tax the creation of this coin. Is that what you're saying?

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Law Partner, Fasken, Digital Asset Mining Coalition

Daniel Brock

Yes. That's correct.

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Liberal

Han Dong Liberal Don Valley North, ON

All right. Thank you.

February 1st, 2023 / 6:35 p.m.

Law Partner, Fasken, Digital Asset Mining Coalition

Daniel Brock

We're using the GST, of course. The creation of the coin is taxed. Corporate taxes and other taxes are paid by these businesses, but on the goods and services tax, you wouldn't be claiming that tax on the creation of the coin on our model. It would ultimately be on the provision of services to an end customer.

6:35 p.m.

Partner, Indirect Tax, Deloitte Canada, Digital Asset Mining Coalition

Tamara Rozansky

Of course, tax will be collected once that coin is used to purchase goods and services, if it's in Canada.

6:35 p.m.

Law Partner, Fasken, Digital Asset Mining Coalition

Daniel Brock

It's not on the trading of the coin; when the coin is used to purchase services, those purchases are taxed.

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Liberal

Han Dong Liberal Don Valley North, ON

Okay. I have it.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

Like the infamous shawarma that Mr. Poilievre bought with bitcoin.

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Voices

Oh, oh!

6:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Joël Lightbound

Thank you very much to all of our witnesses. It's been very informative, so thank you for taking the time.

This was probably our final meeting on the topic. I believe it's an excellent conclusion to this study. With the help of our analyst, we will now be able to prepare the report.

Thank you for your time, and take care.

I'd also like to thank the interpreters, the clerk and the entire staff.

The meeting is adjourned.