I'll take a stab at it, if you'd allow me to go first.
On the the banking side, it's been very difficult, as Mr. Morphy said, even for our company. We do nothing illegal. We follow all of the laws. We pay our taxes. We are very transparent. We're a public company. All of our crypto is audited. Everybody can see it on public blockchain. There's nothing nefarious in anything we do.
BDC has told me directly that they have a mandate not to support crypto companies. They can support all sorts of other companies. It makes no sense that we're discriminated against in this manner by BDC.
EDC is another challenge. However, I think their mandate is a little bit different for us. I would love to get EDC's help. One of my board directors in my company sits on governance and compliance on EDC. He definitely understands some of the frustrations that our company has.
If the Canadian government's BDC won't support crypto, it's really hard to get other commercial banks to support crypto—not even support it, but do business with it. It's not even about supporting it and giving it anything special; we just want to be treated like any other business that's legal in Canada.
With regard to companies like Tetra, I sit on the board of a company called Brane Trust. It's also in Alberta. It is not a qualified custodian like Tetra. It's working towards that. It is having a lot of problems doing this. It is difficult to pass all of the thresholds. However, it's encouraging that there are other Canadian entrepreneurs out there who are trying to bring more companies into the custody side of the business for consumers and businesses. Hopefully, there will be more in the future. I think the more there are the better it is for giving the industry choice and helping the industry develop.
I encourage Brane, as a board director and an investor in their company. I hope for their success. I'm sure that Mr. Oliver would say the same. He knows them very well as well.
It's not really about competition as much as choice in developing this industry. If you talk to exchanges, custodies, crypto miners or people who work in compliance in Canada, they're all trying to help this industry grow. It's really difficult with the situations that we're facing right now.