That's fine.
I guess what I'm worried about as we go on here is that we have a strong Canadian tradition of rip-and-ship with our natural resources. That's different from the auto sector in terms of value added.
I'll end with that, Mr. Chair. The tool-and-die mould industry—the value-added components—is what we're looking at. As we evolve in this, I think we're all trying to be really interested in finding out what we're prepared to do. I remember Allan Rock back in 2003, when we had the national auto strategy round tables in Toronto. They were very effective. We haven't seen that kind of return to date. Other strategies have been employed. A briefing component would also be important to me, as much as the money.