That's a very good point. I do think that industry has a huge role to play in this work, and Glencore is no exception to that. They are a key tenant in the minerals industry in Canada, both in Quebec and in Ontario, in Sudbury in particular.
I think that if we all roll up our sleeves and look at the art of the possible with respect to embracing new technologies that can clean up the emissions that are coming out of that factory, that refinery can actually be part of the solution on a go-forward basis.
As we are looking to mine more copper, which we need for everything.... For every light we have, the electricity runs through copper. If we don't have that smelter capacity, then we actually have no choice but to export that raw material and not have the value chain in Canada. In order to do that, we need to work with industry to help them be able to reduce their emissions, be able to achieve the targets they need to achieve so that people can have long, happy lives as well as good-paying jobs, and be able to achieve our shared objectives.