When you look at the malfeasance that's taken place in white-collar crime, I don't think that $200,000 to many people is.... That's now the equivalent salary for professional occupations in general per year.
I'm sorry. I just don't have much faith in western democracies' treating white collar crimes as significant. There have been very few cases of people actually going to jail. If we're going to criminally prosecute somebody, a $5,000 fine.... It's going to cost us significantly more to prosecute. If our threats are solely to just put people in the courts, then we're pushing into the court system, which is under stress now.
I guess I'll leave that for our debate. I appreciate where it comes from. At least we understand now.
Those are my questions, Mr. Chair, because it's going to be kind of a political fight, I guess, to some degree. I appreciate the officials, though, with their information.