We can agree to disagree on the philosophy, but for an administrative mistake, let's make sure of the threshold for smaller companies. The vast majority of Canadian companies are small and medium-sized. For the bad actor, for someone who does something wilfully, let's make sure we have the big hammer.
I appreciate where you're coming from and I want to applaud the work of the NDP, and your work, Mr. Masse, in particular; you've done a lot of work on that. However, if you ask me philosophically where I come from, I will say this: For an honest mistake, it's $5,000. That's consistent with what you find in the law in the Canada Business Corporations Act. However, if someone wilfully does something, you take out the big hammer. I'll ask the department, but I think this would be among the strongest penalties in the world. You want to punish the bad guys and somehow make sure that the vast majority of Canadian corporations will never have to deal with that kind of fine. You want to make sure you protect the small guy with a fine of $5,000, which would still be significant for a small business.