Thank you, sir.
We are certainly very happy to hear you this morning. If you do not mind, I will ask you some questions with reference to testimony we received previously. I think you are not in agreement with-- I mean what you said is very far from what we heard, mainly from NGOs and other organizations.
From what I heard this morning, you both said essentially the same thing: you were rather shocked by the Prime Minister's statement that he will not sacrifice human rights in China for the almighty dollar. I understand that you both advocate the status quo that has been in existence for 30 years. We will have economic ties, we'll mention human rights from time to time so it looks good for the media, but what we actually want is economic relations and more business with China. I can understand why this is so.
This brings me to my question.
I would like to hear from you on this. Mr. Marchi, you're talking about balance. How can you justify that, ultimately, human rights are important, but not more so than trade, business and deals we have with China? This is what I understand. We will not neglect human rights but political relations are more important. Is this what you're saying?