This will probably come as no great surprise to you. You talk about a divergence of opinions. There certainly are some between me and the government members present on the how. When Mr. Harper was aboard the plane and made the pronouncements he made, it was read in some circles as a lecture to the Chinese on human rights. I don't think that was helpful at all. I have been working with Mr. Celil's family and lawyers since March, and they just shook their heads in great disappointment.
To set that aside for a moment, there seems to be a disconnect, at least from what I'm hearing you say, between the political side and the economic side. It sounds like market-driven economics with these folks is working reasonably well. People and businesses are able to get in there and conclude their contracts, but there's a change in the politics.
I was listening to what you were saying about the relationship before, where you were able to lay on the table a number of differing issues, but now there seems to be some kind of a difficulty in doing that.
We're looking at the bilateral human rights dialogue here. I think some folks would like to park human rights there. The dialogue hasn't been that effective. We've had a situation where senior Chinese officials didn't even attend.
Human rights is a core fundamental value for Canadians, I think ahead of most countries in the world. Can you give any advice as to how you think we should proceed to try to re-establish that political relationship?