Evidence of meeting #21 for Subcommittee on International Human Rights in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was tremblay.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Kim Pate  Executive Director, Canadian Association of Elizabeth Fry Societies
Philippe Tremblay  Officer, Asia-Pacific Program, Association for the Prevention of Torture
Dominique Larochelle  Member of the Board of Directors, Canadian Association of Elizabeth Fry Societies

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kevin Sorenson Conservative Crowfoot, AB

Can I ask Madame St-Hilaire a question? The widow of the individual who was murdered, is she Indonesian or is she Canadian? She's Indonesian. But she was here?

12:30 p.m.

Bloc

Caroline St-Hilaire Bloc Longueuil—Pierre-Boucher, QC

She is not Canadian.

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kevin Sorenson Conservative Crowfoot, AB

All right.

12:30 p.m.

Bloc

Caroline St-Hilaire Bloc Longueuil—Pierre-Boucher, QC

I should add that she came on the weekend of the 28th and 29th of May, in the context of annual bilateral discussions between Indonesia and Canada in Vancouver. That is why she made a brief visit to Ottawa, and a number of other places—hence the relevance of this motion, Mr. Sorenson.

12:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mario Silva

Okay. Are there any further questions?

The only thing I want to know is whether it would be possible to propose a minor amendment. Your recommendation begins with the words: “that Canada use appropriate diplomatic means [...]”. However, when you use diplomatic means, you don't express things publicly. It's either a diplomatic action or a public action, but not both. A diplomatic action is carried out between two governments; it's not public. Are you asking for the government to take public action or diplomatic action?

12:30 p.m.

Conservative

Kevin Sorenson Conservative Crowfoot, AB

I think, Mr. Chair, with all due respect here, that she's probably got good wording on it. She's said that Canada use “appropriate” diplomatic means. It's not just diplomatic means, but that which would be appropriate to express publicly. So there may be some venue here, in fact, that in some ways gives me more confidence in this motion than just saying that Canada use diplomatic means to express publicly. I think she's used a good word, putting in “appropriate”, because there may be some measures that diplomacy would view as being appropriate and others not.

12:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mario Silva

Okay, so we'll have a vote.

(Motion agreed to)

12:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Mario Silva

Thank you.

I think there's no other business.

The meeting is adjourned. Thank you very much.