Evidence of meeting #17 for Subcommittee on International Human Rights in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was motions.
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1:50 p.m.
NDP
Wayne Marston NDP Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON
May I offer just one point? My motion can be worked on and passed or not passed, but if it were to pass, then the second motion to defer is still something that can take place. At this point, we're talking about—
1:50 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Scott Reid
I'm sorry, Mr. Marston, you're quite right. I apologize, and thank you for catching that.
We're not debating the main motion; we're debating your amendment. If there are no more speakers on it, we can still vote on that one; you're right.
Then we come back to the main motion, which can still be deferred, or we could have a vote on the deferral of the main motion.
Am I seeing that anybody wants to speak on the amendment?
Mr. Dorion, did you want to speak to it? No? In that case....
Mr. Hiebert. I'm sorry.
1:50 p.m.
Conservative
Russ Hiebert Conservative South Surrey—White Rock—Cloverdale, BC
I have just a question. I guess it's a point of clarification. Is it required that we have unanimous consent to amend the motion, as we did when Mr. Dorion—
1:50 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Scott Reid
We need to have unanimous consent to....
No, you're right; you didn't. It was me getting muddled up here.
1:50 p.m.
Conservative
1:50 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Scott Reid
No, we can do it by majority vote, which is what we'll now move to, if there are no more speakers on the amendment. Let's find out.
(Amendment agreed to on division [See Minutes of Proceedings])
We're now back to the main motion, and this brings us back to Mr. Sweet, if he chooses to move his motion.
1:50 p.m.
Conservative
David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON
That is the motion to defer, yes.
May I ask a question?
1:50 p.m.
Conservative
1:50 p.m.
Conservative
David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON
I think we're going to take the path of deferring it without instructions, and then I'll move a motion to deal with that motion on witnesses later.
1:50 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Scott Reid
All right, we're trying deferring right now. I gather there is no debate on this. Let's see how we go on that one.
(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
All right. We're deferring it.
1:50 p.m.
Conservative
David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON
I think we need to be fair, and I may need Mr. Silva's help here. Because that was the premise on which he was supportive, I would also move that at a later date we would call witnesses, if it were germane to that motion.
1:50 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Scott Reid
Right.
Before we turn to any other committee business—we have five minutes left—the committee—
1:50 p.m.
NDP
Wayne Marston NDP Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON
Are we going to entertain that particular motion now or wait until the next meeting?
1:50 p.m.
Liberal
Mario Silva Liberal Davenport, ON
I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. Thank you for pointing out the time, because I have an SO 31, so I have to leave. I offer my apologies
1:50 p.m.
Conservative
David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON
Mr. Chair, do you have other administrative work to do?
1:50 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Scott Reid
I have a couple of things that I'd like to go through, but if you could be brief about this....
1:50 p.m.
Conservative
David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON
I think if you want to we can go through some other administrative work and we can get something done, rather than just debate...other things.
1:50 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Scott Reid
All right. We have a basic scheduling problem. You've all seen the schedule. The problem is that we had set aside two days for consideration of the draft report on the universal periodic review. One of those days is now gone.
We have one hour to do this. I've never actually heard of a committee that's managed to do a report, go through everything, in a single one-hour meeting, and look at the work the researchers have done on it. I think the reasons for that are obvious.
We're going to have to find a way to deal with it. I'm going to suggest that we find some time on the schedule and add a meeting, because all our meetings are taken until the end of the session. We could find another meeting that's not in our regular schedule, perhaps next week or the week after, to deal with anything in regard to the draft report on the universal periodic review, which can't be completed in the scheduled meetings.
We obviously won't go ahead with any meeting until we can find a suitable time, but I'm putting you on notice that we have to find a time to do it.
1:55 p.m.
Conservative
David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON
Mr. Chair, can we do that by e-mail and try to get some consensus on it?
1:55 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Scott Reid
Yes, on all that stuff and finding a mutually convenient time, but I wanted to get that out.
Julie, is there anything else on the list for today that we need to deal with before we give the floor back to Monsieur Dorion or anyone else?
1:55 p.m.
The Clerk of the Committee Mr. Graeme Truelove
No.