Right.
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that a primary indicator--it would be difficult to quantify--would be the status of human rights in a country if we're talking about economic well-being. It doesn't surprise me that Venezuela has done well, in terms of the price of oil, since 2005. So I just draw that to your attention as a possible explanation.
My colleagues have raised these issues independently. Collectively, putting it all together, what we've heard is that judges are being imprisoned. We had a witness here not that long ago who talked about the case of Judge Afiuni. I don't know if you've heard about her.