Yes, I think there's no question that this, sadly, has been the effect of China's economic position. They certainly are an economic world leader. I wouldn't go further and call them a world leader beyond that. I think they're masquerading as one, simply because they're not respecting the rights of their own citizens.
They have made tremendous economic progress. I'm sure Dr. Yang will back up the fact that many Chinese citizens are benefiting from that. China is doing much better, is much more prosperous than it once was, at least in the cities. Let's not forget that in the rural regions, they're still living in much the same conditions as before.
But in terms of the message that we are sending, there's no question we're sending that message. You identified the duality of foreign policy with respect to China. On the one hand, many western countries, including my own, the United States, have a deep relationship economically with China, and we see it in the human rights community in the sense that the dialogue has changed dramatically not just with businesses but also with people. When you speak to people and you talk about human rights in China, particularly young people, it's not like 10 years ago, where people immediately thought about Tibet. To some extent the situation with the Uighurs has received a lot of press, but it's not like it once was. People's first reaction to China is not, “Wow, the human rights situation is bad”; it's “Wow, China's a superpower, and we have to contend with that; they're making much greater progress”.
I think China has done a really great job at branding itself. If anybody says anything negative against China, China immediately comes back and calls them a China-basher and says this is some conspiracy to try to keep China from progressing.
To some extent, they've controlled that dialogue, they've controlled that narrative, because businesses have such an invested interest there. And we can all understand that, but at the same time there's no reason that the two dialogues can't coexist together. There's no reason why governments and businesses can't proceed with a relationship with China and at the same time call for progress, because progress in human rights is progress in rule of law, which is to say progress in respect for commercial contracts and things like that. Businesses have a vested interest to see China improve its situation not just for its own citizens but for themselves, and they need to recognize that. I think it's important that we bring that message to businesses, for sure.