Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you, Ms. Vandergrift, for being with us today.
Your testimony was very informative. I appreciate the format you used in outlining the problems and the solutions that you recommend. It did raise a couple of questions for me that I hope you can clarify.
In your second proposed reform of the human rights policy process in Canada, you mentioned that there are two references to an obligation to fulfill our international treaties. One was at Treasury Board and the second was at departments, which have an obligation to evaluate whether or not their initiatives respect international human rights obligations.
Then you stated that those decisions in departments are being made by people without expertise in international agreements. I wonder if you could elaborate on that. How would you know they don't have expertise?