Mr. Lee, we've worked together now for a couple of years on this, and I have great respect for the Council for Human Rights in North Korea, and of course for you in putting forward the ideas you have over the last couple of years. We've worked together on media conferences and things like that.
I want to mention a bill that was put in by Peter Julian of the NDP. And Mr. Devolin has put in a bill. This one called on China to authorize the safe passage of refugees from North Korea through to South Korea, through their territory. We've heard the stories repeatedly of the repatriation to North Korea and what happens there.
Doctor, your passion for what you're doing is very heartfelt, and you're not to blame and nobody is to blame in this generation for what happened in previous generations in Germany. And from what I see here today, you have done yeoman service for the people of North Korea by identifying and putting forward the situation there.
You spoke about the starvation. And because you raised the topic of the previous death camps, is there any indication at all of anything outside of benign neglect? There is no such thing as actual death camps like the previous position where people are going to die there, or a system of putting them to death?
The other thing I'll try to get to as quickly as I can is that you have expectations of this committee. You know from yesterday's testimony that the Universal Periodic Review of Canada did put forward particular recommendations and some substantial ones, I must give them credit for that. Beyond that, the next thing you're proposing is a full motion of the Parliament of Canada. Do you have any way of measuring or knowing about the results of the UPR of Canada? Was there any response over there to that at the time? And what is the expectation for the outcome of our motion?