As you know, in the UN we are very specialized. There are those who work on IDPs, on camps and on the design of the camps. I think this is still developing. This is not my direct task, but of course we are looking into this and the phenomenon of sexual violence being used in connection with, for example, expulsions of people who are in and around these camps. It's the peacekeepers and those who work on designing those camps who have to address this. We are trying to look into the rest.
Many of these peacekeepers, for example, come from India, South Africa, Uganda, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, and they are placed in the jungle of the DRC. They don't speak any of the local languages. Suddenly this half-naked woman comes into view on the dirt road. She comes up to their vehicle and seems to be crying for help. What are they supposed to do in a situation like that? They don't understand what she's saying, but she seems to need help. They know that if they take her in the vehicle, they themselves might be accused of sexual exploitation and abuse. There has been a very lively debate about peacekeepers going to prostitutes or being accused of sexual violence. They cannot leave her there. They understand that this is a risky situation.
This is exactly the kind of training we are doing now. We are doing scenario-based training on the ground. We are trying to help them to deal with those different situations. We are also working with those who designed those camps.
When we visited Angola we discussed with the people there what was going on in connection with the people being expelled. Is it that the chain of command does not work? The police and border control allow this to happen, maybe around the chaos that exists in many of those situations. We have to make sure that it works, that the whole chain of command works, and that impunity is not the rule.
We have to address it on parallel tracks and at the same time in an effective way. My direct task is not exactly these camps, but this is definitely for the UN. This has to be part of how war support camps are designed. I'm sure there are calculations in terms of how many people are needed, how much this or that service is needed.