Evidence of meeting #22 for Subcommittee on International Human Rights in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was eritrea.

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MPs speaking

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Elizabeth Chyrum  Director, Human Rights Concern Eritrea
Aaron Berhane  Member, Eritrean Human Rights Group Canada

1:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Scott Reid

Order, please. We have enough members for a quorum.

This is the Subcommittee on International Human Rights of the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development. Welcome to the subcommittee's 22nd meeting on this Tuesday, February 14, 2012, Valentine's Day.

We are continuing to look at the human rights situation in Eritrea, and we have two witnesses with us today.

We'll have two presentations, which means that we'll have perhaps a bit less time for questions than we might otherwise have. I'll tell you how long you have for each question once we're ready to go.

With that being said, our two witnesses today are Elizabeth Chyrum, who is the director of Human Rights Concern Eritrea. She has come all the way from London to be with us today. We also have Aaron Berhane, with Eritrean Human Rights Group Canada. He has come from Toronto to be with us today. I believe Ms. Chyrum will be giving the first presentation.

Ms. Chyrum, please feel free to begin.

1:05 p.m.

Elizabeth Chyrum Director, Human Rights Concern Eritrea

Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

I would like first to thank the House of Commons Subcommittee on International Human Rights for hosting this hearing and giving me the opportunity and the platform to present a tragedy that has yet to receive the attention it has been crying for.

I am going to talk about the human rights violations in Eritrea and what it means in reality. After an armed struggle lasting more than three decades, Eritrea became an independent state in May 1993. Since independence, Eritrea has been ruled by the Peoples Front for Justice and Democracy Party—PFDJ—led by President Isaias Afwerki. It was soon after the tragic border conflict between Eritrea and Ethiopia flared up in May 1998 that the nation took a turn for the worse. The war was the national security excuse the government used to extend its authoritarian grip on the people. The Eritrean-drafted constitution was put on hold. The national election scheduled for 2001 was permanently postponed and the national assembly, in effect, nullified.

All basic freedoms have been suspended. When a group of officials known as G-15 demanded the implementation of the constitution in September 2001, they were detained without any due process and have been languishing in prison ever since, many now believed dead.

I will try to give a brief summary of human rights violations in Eritrea.

There is no independent judiciary system ever since the detention of the G-11 in September 2001. National security has become the excuse for detaining tens of thousands without any due process.

No unions can be formed or joined by citizens for the protection of their rights. No formation of political parties is permitted.

No peaceful protest, demonstration, and public meetings are allowed. A gathering or a meeting of more than seven people is considered a criminal activity and is punishable by law. Civil society organizations that are independent of the state do not exist in Eritrea. No human rights defenders are allowed to operate within Eritrea. There is not a single human rights organization inside the country. There has been no effort to form a human rights organization, nor would permission be given, nor would citizens be allowed to monitor and report on the human rights situation in Eritrea from within.

Religious freedom is non-existent. The Eritrean government permits four faiths: the Orthodox, Catholic, and Lutheran churches, and Islam. All other religious practice and worship was banned in 2002. Many are in prison for not belonging to these faiths and attempting to hold religious services in public, which often leads to arrest. The head of the Orthodox church, Patriarch Antonios, was removed from his position in 2006 for asking the government to stop interfering in religious affairs.

The government expelled most non-governmental organizations in 48 hours in 1997.

In 2005, USAID, which provided most of the food needed by the country, was asked to cease its operations. In the same year, the government confiscated more than 100 UN vehicles. Its relationship with the World Food Programme had so deteriorated that the latter was forced to terminate operations.

It controls all the food distribution system, using a coupon system, controlling every gram of food consumed by every member of every household. Attempting to get food from elsewhere is illegal so that avoiding starvation has been criminalized. Even the army is underfed.

Currently, there are tens of thousands of victims of detention without trial and enforced disappearance in more than 300 prison sites throughout the country. Detainees are held incommunicado, in solitary confinement, in underground dungeons, in metal shipping containers, and are routinely tortured.

Beatings are routine. Innovative and cruel ways of tying up the prisoner, electric shocks, genital torture, rape and sex slavery, and hard labour are common. Deprivations of sleep, food, water, clothing, medicine, company, and visitation are routine. Many have died. Extrajudicial summary and arbitrary executions are also very common.

Cities, towns, and villages have been emptied of their most productive population, the 18- to 50-year-olds. Abuses stemming from the controlled environment of constant supervision, regimentation, political indoctrination, harsh punishments, slave labour, routine incarcerations, death sentences, and massacres keep down the restive young population. This, in turn, has led to tens of thousands of conscripts escaping from the military. Vicious, arbitrary round-ups are also conducted to fill up the ever-dwindling pool of army recruits.

Eritrea is the world's second-most militarized country, a close second to North Korea, allocating about 25% of its budget for military use—the highest in the world. Out of Eritrea's population of about five million, over 350,000 are in active military service, with hundreds of thousands more in reserve. There have been no wars since 2000, yet the government will not demobilize the army in case it loses control over the trapped youth, who make up the bulk of national service. Although the official period is 18 months, and is compulsory, out of 384,000 youths drafted since 1994, most of them are there for 17 or more years. Of more than 10,000 recruits in 2008, 38% of them were underage.

Education has been completely militarized. Since 2003 all students are required to finish their last high school year in military camps, under military authority and far from home. They are then transferred to training grounds. Those who are selected for higher education have been sent to vocational colleges that double as boot camps. The only university in the country was closed in 2006.

Those who have refused to carry arms, such as conscientious objectors and Jehovah's Witnesses, have been imprisoned. Forced labour of sometimes underage students, military conscripts, and prisoners has been widely used under the pretext of development programs. Most manual labour on the new mining projects is being provided by military conscripts and political prisoners.

Female conscripts are sexually, emotionally, and physically abused, and are often made servants and sex slaves of military commanders and guards in prisons. Refusal results in heavy military duties, torture, and severe punishment. Many end up with unwanted pregnancies, and many more end up with HIV/AIDS and/or other sexually transmitted diseases.

Forced conscription and endless military service have caused a mass exodus of the youth. Eritreans, by the hundreds, are fleeing Eritrea daily to escape the unprecedented oppression, yet more than half of those attempting to escape the country are either shot dead on sight or are caught and then subjected to torture, years of imprisonment, and execution. The risks and dangers to Eritreans do not end even after crossing the border into the Sudan. The fugitives still face abuses.

In Sudan, where there are hundreds of arrivals per day, the Sudanese security forces and police have become the worst violators of the rights of refugees. These violations include kidnapping, physical and sexual abuse, humiliation, forcing one to abandon one's own culture and traditions, looting and confiscating of money and properties, deportation, detention under the security forces or intelligence units, rape, and payment of money to the security forces in exchange for release.

Furthermore, an extensive network of human traffickers and criminals, in collaboration with the Sudanese security forces and the Eritrean intelligence services, is heavily engaged in kidnapping, trafficking, and hostage-taking for ransom. Those who are kidnapped are being trafficked to the Sinai Desert, where they are being held hostage and subjected to rape, torture, organ extraction, killing, and the payment of tens of thousands of dollars. So far, thousands have died in the Sahara Desert and the high Mediterranean Sea while en route to Europe, using unsafe means of transportation. In the refugee camps, in addition to the lack of protection, the constant fear, and the trauma, the refugees also suffer from a shortage of supplies in basic needs and in social services.

Those who survive the crossing of the Sahara Desert meet a new nightmare when they reach Egypt, Libya, and even Israel. In Libya, before and during the revolution, the refugees suffered rape, torture, and psychological and physical abuses by the authorities and the population. Thousands of refugees have been deported to Eritrea from Sudan, Libya, Egypt, Malta, the U.K., and Germany, resulting in their torture, killing, and slavery under the Eritrean regime. Mass deportation is particularly going on from Sudan.

In Egypt, they are shot on the spot if caught trying to cross to Israel. Those who are shot in the legs while trying to cross the Israeli and Egyptian borders might find themselves in hospital with surgery marks around their stomachs, suggesting the involuntary removal of organs. Others are sent to prison, where men and women alike are raped, starved, and tortured, having exchanged one hell for another.

Even if they survive all this, they have to survive hostility and humiliation from the potential host countries. This can be in the form of detention, destitution, and eventual refusal of asylum, resulting in forced deportation, despite the certain knowledge that they will face imprisonment, torture, and perhaps death on their return for the crime of seeking a livable life in another country.

Apart from the deportations, thousands of Eritreans whose asylum claims have been refused become illegally resident, where they spend long periods in detention awaiting deportation, and they are left to live on the streets in destitution. Host countries' legislation bars these individuals from access to basic public services such as shelter, food, medical care, etc., and they are prevented from working.

Parents of army deserters are punished. If parents cannot pay a hefty fine equivalent to $3,000, which amounts to five years' income of the average household, they are detained indefinitely. Some are harshly interrogated and tortured.

I have tried to show that Eritrea is a country where no human rights are respected, be it the choice of religion, the right to a fair trial, the right to vote in free elections, the right to leave town looking for food and work, the right not to join the army, not to be sexually molested, tortured, beaten, and even killed for daring to express anything other than a blind subservience to a government that causes the starvation of its own people and forces their underfed bodies to dig for gold, and forces their children to join the army while depriving them of an education.

Eritrea has now become one of the most paranoid, secretive, and repressive nations on earth. Perhaps there is no other nation on earth right now that violates the rights of its people to this magnitude, other than North Korea.

I'll just leave the recommendations for you to go through.

Thank you very much.

1:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Scott Reid

Thank you.

Our witness is referring to a number of recommendations she made. These are included in her presentation. It would be a good idea for members to take a look at them, and you might want to ask questions about them during the question and answer part of the proceedings.

Let's go to our second witness.

Mr. Berhane, please begin.

1:15 p.m.

Aaron Berhane Member, Eritrean Human Rights Group Canada

Thank you very much.

First of all, I would like to thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak on the Eritrean human rights issue. I would like to speak specifically about what is going on in Eritrean Canadian life in Canada.

But before I address that—Elsa has mentioned most of the points—I want to focus on the freedom of the press.

Currently, no privately owned news media functions in what is considered the worst country for journalists in the world since 2001. All seven independent newspapers were forcibly shut down and their editors were arrested in 2001. As we speak, there are 30 journalists in prison. Five of them have already died in prison. We don't know the fate of the rest, but, sadly, their situation is predictable, as they are still in jail in a shipping container.

The authorities—the Eritrean government—have denied that a clampdown took place, claiming instead that either the journalists have merely been sent to carry out their national service or the closure and arrests were necessary for the sake of national unity.

But all of these are baseless accusations. The journalists were arrested because they were calling for the implementation of the constitution. They were speaking on behalf of the people who were arrested, who were voiceless, such as the students who were in jail for speaking up and also the political dissenters. That is the reason they were arrested and their papers were shut down.

In May 2007, the African Commission on Human Rights and Peoples' Rights of the African Union ruled that the detentions of the journalists were arbitrary and unlawful and called on the Eritrean government to release and to compensate the detainees.

Even 15 senior government officials were arrested in 2001. When those senior officials were not happy with the way the president was governing, they wrote an open letter that criticized the president and called for democratic reforms. They published their letter in the newspaper Setit. Eleven out of the 15 have been detained since September 2001. They were accused of crimes against national security and sovereignty; however, to this date no charge has been filed against them or the journalists.

It was the same thing in 2003. The African commission did a thorough investigation and found that the Eritrean government was in violation of articles 2, 6, 7, and 9 of the African charter, and they urged the State of Eritrea to order the immediate release of the 11 detainees. According to recent information that we were able to gather, since 2002 about six out of those 11 detainees have died in prison. We don't know exactly about the rest, since there is no access to see them.

What I would like to stress more is the safety and the security of Eritrean Canadians. The harassment of the Eritrean government is still alive here. The Eritrean government employs a long international arm of terror to vandalize, attack, and punish its critics wherever they are, even here in Canada.

I criticized the Eritrean government representative in Canada repeatedly in Meftih, a newspaper I have published since 2004, for manipulating the community festival to carry out the Eritrean regime's political agenda and raise funds. On July 23, 2007, while I was having lunch in one of the Eritrean restaurants on Bloor Street, somebody, a supporter, who could be a fan of the Eritrean regime, or an agent, slashed two tires of my car. Of course, I informed the police, but the vandals were never apprehended.

In a blog I was writing at asmarino.com, I also criticized the government for converting the country into a huge prison camp. On the morning of the next day, January 3, 2008, I saw that the front and rear windows of my car had been smashed. I reported it to the police, of course, but the vandals have never been apprehended.

I'm not alone. There are approximately 50 journalists who live in exile. There are about six or seven journalists who live in Canada. Most of them live in constant fear.

The Eritrean consulate in Canada uses extortion, threats of violence, and other illegal means to collect a 2% tax from Eritrean Canadians. The Eritrean government's office asks for T4 slips and Revenue Canada forms to prove that Eritrean Canadians are accurately reporting their income.

Most are forced to pay because the government will not honour their requests, such as educational documents, birth certificates, copies of marriage certificates, or any vital documents, without proof of the 2% tax payment. Those who refuse to pay and do not request any documents from the government are still intimidated or approached by the agents of the regime to pay; they are warned to do it for the sake of their families who live back home.

For example, it took me eight years to bring my wife and my children here, because my wife and my children were kept hostage in Eritrea for the last eight years. They were not allowed to travel outside the country. The activities of my wife were scrutinized and closely monitored. Her telephone was tapped.

However, at the end of 2009, thanks to a well-orchestrated operation, I managed to smuggle out my wife and my children. They were able to join me in May 2010. But there are many unlucky people like me.

On the 2% tax, it is not only the tax that is asked for. Individuals are also forced to donate money for what is called “national defence against Ethiopian invasion”. There are four stages that you have to pay in; so at a minimum, you have to pay at least $500 in order to get that proof of payment of the 2% tax.

The diaspora tax violates the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. In areas where the Eritrean government doesn't have diplomatic or consular representatives, the tax is collected by party agents or community activists. The agents visit Eritreans' homes, make note of those who don't pay, and share with them the consequences of not making the payment.

Anyone who left the country after 1998 is asked to fill out a “regret form” so as to get proof of his or her 2% tax payment. They have to fill out that regret form. So despite the fact that most of the people fled the country to escape persecution or indefinite national service, they are extorted to sign a regret form that could identify them as traitors or defectors. If you don't comply, the government refuses to honour your requests, so you can't enrol in your education or get whatever document you are requesting from them.

The extortion goes far beyond that. The Eritrean consulate forces Eritrean Canadians to attend fundraising events or meetings, to sign petitions, and to participate in demonstrations. The agents of the regime are very instrumental in such tasks. They call everyone's home and they go to churches or mosques to make announcements of any fundraising events organized by the consulate of the government under the guise of the community. In total, the Eritrean consulate raises from $10 million to $20 million per year.

The Canadian government grants an entry visa for the Eritrean military cultural troupe at least three times a year to perform in events organized by the Eritrean Canadian Association of Ontario, which is indirectly governed by the Eritrean consulate. Each year, the troupe puts on approximately 20 shows all over Canada. That allows them to generate $1 million.

The 2% diaspora tax levied by the Eritrean government enables them to raise about $15 million.

Through ongoing activities in Canada, agents of the ruling party also raise funds in the name of orphaned Eritrean children, but the huge amount of money collected has never been used for those needy children.

All this is done under the very nose of the Canadian government. Sometimes, some of us Eritrean Canadians wonder who is ruling here: the Canadian government or the Eritrean government? The expectation of most Eritrean Canadians, after all, is that the Canadian government will be vigilant in protecting its citizens, regardless of their country of origin.

This should be a big concern for the Canadian government, as al-Shabaab has been cultivated by the Eritrean government to commit terrorist activities in neighbouring countries. As the UN Monitoring Group on Eritrea and Somalia has confirmed, those groups were trained, armed, and financed by the Eritrean government. There is also a rumour that the flight tickets of the six Somali Canadian youths who left Toronto in 2009 to join al-Shabaab were paid for by the Eritrean consulate. The Eritrean consulate also tries to work under the guise of the community it controls, such as, in Toronto, ECAO, the Eritrean Canadian Association of Ontario, and the Eritrean Community of Winnipeg Incorporated, in Manitoba.

Therefore, I urge the Canadian government to take action to ban the 2% diaspora tax; to ban the fundraising events organized by the Eritrean Cultural Centre or the Eritrean Canadian Association of Ontario; to treat the illicit activities of the agents of the Eritrean regime similarly to how the Canadian government treated the illicit activities of pro-Tamil Tigers groups; to fully support and implement immediately UN Security Council Resolution 2023, which puts restrictions on investment in the Eritrean mining industry; to review the diplomatic relationship Canada has with Eritrea, as the Eritrean consulate has repeatedly acted out of its diplomatic mandate; to investigate the activities of the Beilul exchange bureau, which is based in Toronto and registered as a private company but acts as the main collaborator of the Eritrean regime in transferring money to Dubai, Sudan, Eritrea, Kenya, and other countries; and to investigate the activities of the Eritrean consulate in Canada to see if it paid for the flight tickets of the six Somali Canadians who left Toronto in 2009 to join al-Shabaab.

Moreover, I urge the Canadian government to see the root cause of the problem and focus on bringing about a sustainable solution, which is to inform and educate Eritreans who live in Eritrea via an alternative media. What we see now is that the Eritrean repressive government continues to control the only existing public media outlets, which continue to propagandize the society with dogmatic information. The only option left for Eritreans is to build an alternative media platform from outside the country, one that promotes one's rights to freely express herself or himself and in which Eritreans could exercise their rights to freely exchange ideas and information without government interference. This would enable Eritreans to gain greater control over their lives and to exert greater influence upon events that affect the society and its future, or else they will continue to live their lives in fear or flow to the refugee camps of Sudan and Ethiopia.

We call upon the Canadian government to assist Eritrean Canadians in establishing an alternative media—shortwave radio or satellite radio—that could broadcast from here to Eritrea.

Thank you, again.

1:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Scott Reid

Thank you very much to both our witnesses.

It's a tiny bit past 1:30, so we have enough time for five-minute question and answer rounds in order to get all six committee members in.

Mr. Sweet, would you like to begin?

1:30 p.m.

Conservative

David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair, and I thank the witnesses as well for their testimony. That was very complete.

I just wanted to say something right off the top, because Aaron was the last witness. I noticed you mentioned that when your car was vandalized twice, you did call the local police. We really need to have other Eritreans who are dealt with inappropriately by the embassy, or these things that you allege the embassy has been involved with to extort money, to come forward and give evidence of that, either to the local authorities or at least to our foreign affairs department. Those are things that we can act on. We need to have the source of these rumours.

I can tell you I have absolutely no love lost at all for al-Shabaab, and anything we can do to diminish their capability, I'd be happy to do, but we need more than a rumour to act on. So whenever you can, when you're dialoguing with your community, the more they can report specific substance, the easier it is for us here in Canada.

Elizabeth, I just wanted to ask you about the African Union, and to thank you again for all the good work that you do. We've heard testimony that not only is the regime in Eritrea abominable when it comes to how they deal with their own people, but they also are big troublemakers in the region. Has the African Union warned them, taken any action, or done anything in order to stop the human rights abuses or their capacity to go over their borders, particularly in supporting al-Shabaab, and wreak havoc in other countries?

1:35 p.m.

Director, Human Rights Concern Eritrea

Elizabeth Chyrum

I think the African nations, in the past, never stood against any other nation to call for the Security Council to impose sanctions on Eritrea. The AU countries, in unison, are condemning Eritrea's destabilizing role in the region. Because of the border war with Ethiopia, of course, there is no peace.

To be honest, I, myself, interviewed my own people, who were training the al-Shabaab, training the Ethiopian opposition, the Sudanese opposition, and the al-Qaeda in that region. But nobody has tried to take action to support the Eritreans, who are really oppressed inside, because so far even the sanctions are on the regional role, not on the human rights situation in Eritrea.

I know that twice the African Commission made a decision on two cases: the G11 and the journalists. The G11 was made in 2003, because Eritrea is a signatory to the African Charter, but it was completely ignored. So in 2003, nothing was found against the G11, and the decision by the African Commission was to release them and compensate them. Since 2003, six out of 11 died, and the five remaining, we don't know whether they are alive or not.

Nothing has been done, honestly, by the African nations or by the international community to help the Eritrean people.

1:35 p.m.

Conservative

David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON

My understanding is that the number of people fleeing Eritrea now has reached about 3,000 per month. I'd like to know if that's correct. If it is, that is going to diminish the population rapidly. Do you find the regime becoming more and more cruel and violent as these people escape the clutches of this region?

1:35 p.m.

Director, Human Rights Concern Eritrea

Elizabeth Chyrum

They are. In fact the Sudanese intelligence service and even the government are cooperating with Eritrea.They are deporting people before they are even screened by UNHCR at the border. Yes, they are very angry. Also, because they are angry now that people are leaving, they are involved in human trafficking. Their own intelligence service is kidnapping people, transporting them all the way to Sinai, and asking up to $33,000 ransom per person. They say, “Okay, go, but we'll catch you”. The Eritrean people are selling their homes and jewellery, and they are begging their relatives in the diaspora to pay this ransom. So yes, they are getting very vicious.

1:35 p.m.

Conservative

David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON

So—

1:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Scott Reid

We're actually out of time for your round.

1:35 p.m.

Conservative

David Sweet Conservative Ancaster—Dundas—Flamborough—Westdale, ON

Thank you.

1:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Scott Reid

Thank you very much.

Mr. Marston, go ahead, please.

1:35 p.m.

NDP

Wayne Marston NDP Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

We had testimony before this committee from Alex Neve, the secretary general of Amnesty International, which was very similar to the testimony you are giving us today.

You made reference to the fact that you're similar to North Korea. At least North Korea fed its army. This country doesn't even seem to be doing that properly. This is one of the worst situations I've heard reported to this committee.

I have a particular interest—and I'm going to try to pronounce your name—Chyrum. Oh my, I got lucky that time.

1:40 p.m.

Director, Human Rights Concern Eritrea

1:40 p.m.

NDP

Wayne Marston NDP Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON

With regard to the Canadian mining company that's in this country, it's very troubling to me as a Canadian citizen that we could participate in any way with a government of this nature.

I want to tell you that this committee has already talked about calling the president of that company before this committee, so I thought I would stress that with you.

Your recommendations are very comprehensive. I went through them during some of the testimony. It's in line with how Alex told us that the Red Cross should be on the ground in this country, and so many different things.

I'm actually going to shift away from you for a moment, because there's another concerning thing.

Mr. Berhane—is that pronunciation close?

1:40 p.m.

Member, Eritrean Human Rights Group Canada

Aaron Berhane

Yes, that's okay.

1:40 p.m.

NDP

Wayne Marston NDP Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON

Are the agents of the regime you referred to known? Are their names known? Do they come from the consulate?

1:40 p.m.

Member, Eritrean Human Rights Group Canada

Aaron Berhane

Yes. Most of them are well known, so we know their names, but still there are people who work underground. In addition to that, all those people who were forced to pay the 2% tax have receipts with them, and they have all the details, and they know exactly who those people are who are charging them. We have all these documents.

1:40 p.m.

NDP

Wayne Marston NDP Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON

We have a situation here such that American citizens in Canada are taxed back to their own country, so this is not something that is unforeseen here. But it's the intimidation factor and the threats that are of concern to us.

I think our government is in a position where it could give some consideration to removing the consulate.

How big is the diaspora here in Canada, do you know?

1:40 p.m.

Member, Eritrean Human Rights Group Canada

Aaron Berhane

Let me elaborate.

1:40 p.m.

NDP

Wayne Marston NDP Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON

Sure.

1:40 p.m.

Member, Eritrean Human Rights Group Canada

Aaron Berhane

The way they charge the tax, it is not like a regular tax. For example, if I request my university transcript from back home, they don't charge me for that service, so I have to pay a 2% tax. When did you leave your country? Let's say it was in 2002. From 2002 to this year, they assume you earn $40,000 a year, so based on that, they simply make a calculation, and you have to pay this amount first. Then they will give you your transcript. If you want to represent for the properties you own, you still have to pay a 2% tax. So it is not like a regular tax.

There are about 20,000 Eritreans living in Toronto and its vicinity. Of course, most of them don't pay. Maybe half of them pay. When you go to pay, you don't pay only for one year. You have to pay the 2% tax since you left the country, and you have to donate money. There are four stages, so the minimum is $500. You have to pay those amounts, and you have to fill out the form.

1:40 p.m.

NDP

Wayne Marston NDP Hamilton East—Stoney Creek, ON

Was that $500 per month?

1:40 p.m.

Member, Eritrean Human Rights Group Canada

Aaron Berhane

No, it's not per month. There are four stages. That means they simply classify those amounts in four stages. The minimum contribution is $500, but usually it is above that.