I was trying to get to one thing specifically. What we discovered—and Professor Cotler was certainly very concerned about that when we were talking about Iran—was that there was lots of agreement and lots of engagement with regard to nuclear, but we didn't have that much momentum in the other western nations with regard to human rights.
Do you see a difference with North Korea? Do you see the same level of passion and engagement in most other western nations towards the human rights violations in North Korea, or is it primarily with the nuclear threat from this nation?