In the first questions that were asked, I think the challenge is access. It's very difficult with a closed country to be able to provide first-hand accounts. We are limited, as my colleague described in the work of some of the United Nations special rapporteur, to accounts of people who have gotten out, or of their own experience—their own horrors, if you will—or their own accounts of others who have been persecuted in North Korea.
It is difficult work; it is not easy. The challenge that I think Canada faces in a lot of countries where there are gross and systemic human rights violations is one of documentation. Human rights workers will tell you as well that it's access and documentation to build the case. We think the case is pretty clear in the case of North Korea.