Thank you, Chair, and committee members. Thanks for being here, Ambassador.
For those of us who would like to see an improvement in the quality of life and the human rights of the people of North Korea in the near future—not after regime change, but in the near future—do you think we'd be better off to spend our time and effort trying to influence the Chinese, who obviously directly deal with North Korean refugees who cross into China, and try to persuade the Chinese to have an influence on the North Koreans? I'm presuming that the Chinese might be the only people the North Koreans listen to.
Would we be better off spending our time trying to persuade the Chinese to get things done, rather than our trying to persuade the North Korean regime directly?