Human rights are something that one continues to work on without making dramatic breakthroughs in most cases. I remember very well trying to deal with human rights issues involving the former Soviet Union in the 1960s and 1970s.
The progress we made in terms of refuseniks being allowed to leave the Soviet Union was difficult. I can remember the American Congress meeting with the wives of some of these refuseniks who were imprisoned in the Soviet Union.
The main thing we need to do is make sure that we do not abandon our commitment to human rights. We need to continue to press on these issues. We need to continue to keep them in the forefront, and eventually we'll begin to make progress. I see the way things have happened in Russia. We're still not at the point we'd like to be in terms of human rights there, but we've made great progress from where we were earlier.
The same thing is true in China. The same thing is true in many other places. We still have a much greater distance to go in the case of North Korea, but I think we need to continue to press, to continue to keep this in the forefront.