Right. Thank you for clarifying the intention of the question.
On those human rights activists, from journalists to members of non-governmental organizations to lawyers, the whole coalition that Human Rights Watch represents, when we have engaged, when my team and I have engaged, representatives of that coalition in places like Jakarta, the capital, or Yogyakarta, which is the city in which the worst attack on us happened, to a person—to a person—they all say to us that they find themselves in a catch-22. If you speak up for the freedoms that are guaranteed in the constitution of Indonesia, then you can expect either yourself or your family—and that's a big issue, your family—to be targeted. But—