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That Congressional Research Service paper happened in 2006, I think. In fact, our foreign affairs department put out a statement in the same week that our second report came out, but I think we have gone well beyond that, and I would hope that the foreign affairs department here has more knowledge about the matter now.
The Government of China doesn't even bother now to try to dispute the kind of thing Mr. Matas was saying. It has long ago given up the ghost. If you look on the embassy website, I'm quite sure you'll find a whole lot of propaganda against Falun Gong. It's been up for years, I believe, but no, Mr. Sweet, nobody disputes that this is happening, except people who....
I'm thinking of one individual whose name I won't give. He took a trip to China paid for by the Chinese Medical Association, and he came back and actually said the Chinese Medical Association is an independent organization. China's Minister of Health had been the president of the Chinese Medical Association about a year earlier.
What I'm trying to say—and David Matas will have things to say, too, I'm sure—is that the proof.... I was a prosecutor for 10 years. We have 52 kinds of evidence. If you don't like the first 10, go to the second 10. At some point most human beings, I think, will accept that maybe not all of the evidence is admissible in our courts, but the evidence that it's happening is overwhelming.
The fact is that the UN and the U.S. Congress and everybody else is getting in on it now, and I frankly wish you had this hearing six years ago. I think the argument is over; now we have to get them to stop it. Mr. Matas and I have been travelling around to 50 countries or more.
By the way, one thing I should correct is that 90% of the transplants are not coming from Falun Gong; they come from prisoners. Maybe I wasn't clear. There are two kinds of prisoners: the ones who have been convicted in the courts of China, and then the Falun Gong, almost all of whom are not convicted of any offence; they're just sent to a forced labour camp on a police signature à la Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin.
David will give you a—