It's very, very challenging. It is the most difficult environment in Africa to do human rights research of any sort. Like many organizations, we don't have access to the ground, so a lot of individuals we interview are located outside of Eritrea, people who have fled national service. There are many, many refugees who have fled Eritrea's national service program. There are many of them here in Canada, and many of them here in Ottawa, so we speak to them and we use sort of creative means to try to corroborate some of the testimony and evidence that we hear.
At the end of the day, it's very difficult to find accurate information on what happens in Eritrea. There's no civil society, there's no independent media whatsoever. Yes, it's very, very difficult.