Right. The important thing about it—I don't know how quickly I skipped over it—is that before the schools were started, the first people they went to were the male elders. The male elders provided a conduit to the Taliban, who were ultimately running the village. For whoever was in charge, the bottom line was that in their day-to-day lives they were led by the Taliban. So the male elders provided a conduit. They negotiated, really, with the men, convinced them that this was not something that threatened them, and got these schools open.
So yes, engaging men in this process is absolutely critical. Sometimes you do it by appealing to a father who has a little daughter. Sometimes you do it, as I mentioned earlier, by saying what the consequences are of not doing that. People understand consequences. If someone wants a big new school, a big new refinery, or some other building to be built, and the cost is that they need a woman on their team, they'll do it.