On the overall threat, which is the extremists, we have to understand the story from the beginning, when the so-called Arab Spring started. Now we are discovering that the Arab Spring turned out to be a cold, deadly winter.
We're all against the dictatorships—please don't misunderstand me. We're all against Mubarak, Gadhafi, Ali Abdullah Saleh, Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali of Tunisia. We're all against all of these dictatorships.
The problem is that when you take a dictatorship out you create a political vacuum. Who is using this political vacuum? The extremists. That's what we saw happen in Libya. That's what we saw happen in Egypt when the Muslim Brotherhood took over.
The extremists will only be defeated if we have the separation between religion and state. That's the only way to establish democracy in the Middle East, to have the separation between religion and state, and to have freedom of religion for minorities and to protect minorities.
Right now, because the political vacuum was created, the extremists will increase and their influence will increase for one simple reason: there is no education. If we are talking about Egyptian society, 30% to 40% of Egyptians are illiterate. They don't know how to write or read their own name. Even if you reform the constitution, the Egyptians don't know what they're voting about, so they will follow the man who comes with an appeal and says, follow me so you can go to heaven. That's exactly what's happened. Education, education, education to defeat the extremists in our Middle Eastern land.