I can talk only from a medical perspective. Our goal has always been to have the international medical community make it very difficult for China.
I'll give you an example. These Chinese transplant surgeons and the Chinese Medical Association are still members of the international transplant society. Their memberships have not been revoked even though they don't comply with any of the international standards for ethical transplantation. They continue to want to engage with China, to keep them in, to keep talking with them, instead of actually forcing them and saying, “Listen, you can't be a member and you can't join our meetings and you can't give presentations unless you can abide by these standards”.
We keep having different types of standards for China, whether we're interacting with it economically or medically. If different countries could put pressure on their own organizations—for instance, we are working on the American Medical Association—and their transplant societies and say, “Listen, we really need to do something about China being a member of any of these organizations”, that would put pressure on them, from at least a medical aspect, to say, “Listen, you have to knock this off. You can't be a member of our international community and continue to do these unethical crimes against humanity”.