Thank you very much, that's very helpful.
We've gone a little over time. I'll just mention before I gavel the session shut that Mr. Gutmann and Dr. Noto will be appearing tomorrow at a public meeting at 12:15 p.m. at 268 La Promenade building, or as we now call it, the Valour building. That's a meeting co-hosted by Mr. Marston, Professor Cotler, and me. I look forward to seeing as many of you there as possible. This has been a very informative session. We're very grateful indeed that you could be here.
Thank you.
The meeting is adjourned.