It sounds to me, listening to your report, that there is a far more sophisticated system at work here than people anticipated. When you start talking about the number of victims, I don't think we've ever heard the numbers you related to us today and the scale of this, which means there's a tremendous number of people involved beyond the leadership and a whole system dependent on sourcing Uyghurs and Tibetans. It's really tragic.
I don't know whether you're aware or not, but our Prime Minister is scheduled to go to China. I don't know whether you could measure this or not, but do you think there's an opening for any kind of influence with this government? You alluded to trade. Of course, going back a number of years, we were one of the first countries to start going to China. We have an opportunity, I think, to utilize our sensibilities around human rights issues to raise this, but do you think that there would be a sympathetic ear there at all?