I've always drawn a lot of comfort from the fact that you have within these systems people who worked under the old system and a lot of new people, a lot of young people. You find as you get into these positions that most of these investigators will be young people. They'll probably be people in their 20s.
We find with them that they're people who care about their society. Everybody cares about their society. They care deeply. They don't like what they're seeing, and they're very committed. We've just found an enormous amount of openness.
We don't ever impose anything. That's not right. It's not our society. What we try to do is talk about what makes sense in the context of their culture and their system. We're trying to point out the issues and ask how we are going to deal with them. We try to bring expertise or best practices to the table and suggest adapting them.
What we do find is just enormous enthusiasm. The problem, of course, that we're running into is that there are only so many resources, and that's where we tend to get limited, right?
Unfortunately, I always say there are three dynamics going on. There are not a lot of resources. We're within a society that has violence levels that are astronomical by our understanding. The third element is that we're working with a still evolving new justice system that has not consolidated. If you put all three of those pieces together, you have quite a challenge.
Some of it's not of their making. The issues around transnational crime really are a result of what has been happening in Mexico pushing down into Guatemala, and changing Honduras. They are part of moments of history. At the same time, they're coping.
You can imagine our case if we were dealing with 45 times the violence, and that's just murder. We focus on murder because that's the gravest human rights violation, but the extortions are astronomical and they affect everybody. They have to be dealt with. The reason we do this work is that we actually are inspired by the people.