As I said to you before, as long as North Korea focuses on this cultification, this deification, of the Kims, then opening up the society is just out the question. They need their leader to be a god, and everyone else in the country is held hostage to this cause.
Right now, though, the North Korean authorities have basically lost their ability to provide rations, so they're losing their control over the society. They just look away when they see markets sprouting up. I think this probably will be what pushes back against the North Korean government. They're not fighting against the external enemies; they're fighting against the markets that are sprouting up within the country. If these grassroots markets continue to flourish, I think North Korea will change a bit. People in the past thought about loyalty to the party, but now, with these markets, they're thinking about materials and what they can buy. In the past there was a very simple line of command, and people would just follow that, but now we have a new order of demand and supply in this market. There's a new life order because of these markets.
So if you want to change North Korea, as long as the regime insists on cultification, we can never have any top-down change in North Korea. We can only hope for change to start at the grassroots. You and other countries around the world shouldn't be talking with the North Korean authorities; you should be looking more at the people in North Korea and what you can do to support their efforts to make more markets flourish in that country.