I think has been a tremendous challenge for everybody who's engaged with these justice institutions within Cambodia, where the entry points are. I think it is correct to say that it is as simple as you've said. You see it in other places where loyalty is to the party first and to the institution second.
That has to be addressed for there to be meaningful change, but as I said before, what we sometimes see in these places is there needs to be close engagement with individuals within these institutions so they can be encouraged to bring about change through their own leadership. As I've said, I've identified certain different people in the Cambodian judiciary, for example, and investigators who are interested in carrying out their work in accordance with their professional ethics, but it's a long-term investment.
Second, I think there also needs to be a strong presence wherever there are trials, for example. Justice needs to be seen to be done as well, and I think in many countries in the world where trials take place without anybody there to see them, they can sometimes tend to be more unjust. From time to time diplomats and civil society observe trials within Cambodia, and that's important. That has to continue, and reports must be written so the failings within the justice system are known and made public and are addressed.
I think it's a long-term challenge, and until some more endemic problems such as corruption and political interference in the justice system are addressed, it's going to be difficult to have meaningful change from the individuals within the justice system themselves, but that has to be done as part of a 10-, 20-, 30-, 50-year project.