I hate to interrupt you, but it's an important point, the statement that he made in the late 1990s encouraging followers to get involved in politics, to take on the main arteries of the state. “Embed yourselves”, I believe is what he said, or something to that effect. He then said that was a fabricated video statement that was released. So is there nothing to that statement at all? Were those not his words?
I'm struggling to understand Fethullah Gülen's ambitions. Is it simply about organizing a movement that seeks the self-improvement of Turks as individuals or is there something more? Is there political ambition there? It's hard for me to assess this.