Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you to the witnesses for being here.
My question will be towards the judicial system within China. Could you comment on whether there may be a two-tier system within the judiciary there for Chinese citizens and for Uighurs?
You mentioned, Ms. Deif, that there was no access to a lawyer. Mr. Zenz, you mentioned that officials denied the existence of these camps. If this were taken into trial or into a court, what would be the outcome, if you're not able to get access to a lawyer?
If these institutions are not strong, who's left to defend the Uighurs?