That's a very difficult question, in Burundi particularly, because we are in such an extreme context.
The intervention has to be at different levels. I understand the former president Pacifique Nininahazwe from the FOCODE came to give testimony there. I think now he's based between Rwanda and Uganda. The human rights defenders were obliged to get out of the country. What they are doing in documenting the human rights violations, the disappearances taking place in Burundi, is critical because we need to document the situation in Burundi. They have a network on the ground, but they cannot operate openly there.
I was in a regional training session two weeks ago in Cameroon, and we had some participants from Burundi. We were building the capacity of civil society organizations. They see that there is still some space to do some work. There is still some space to try to infuse the building of bridges among the communities, using the human rights principles and values to continue to build those bridges, because I think there is really a lot of danger in terms of division among the different communities in Burundi.
I think it is also a question of finding some space, some actors who might not engage in very politically difficult issues, but to find some space to work at the community level on a small scale. I think we need to continue to build that movement within the country too.