Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I want to thank our witnesses for being here today.
Mr. Messenger, it's such a complex issue and I'm trying to get some clarity. You use child or forced labour together. Do you distinguish between the two of them when you're talking about numbers? This is our second hearing on this and these things seem to be mixed together a bit.
You have some great material in your submission. I'm talking about your definitions about what constitutes child labour and that. When you're talking about child or forced labour and using numbers, do you break them down or do you leave them mixed together?