If I may refer to the programming we're doing, for example, in Bangladesh and Vietnam, the main focus is on women as the primary caregivers of children, ensuring that although they might be paid the minimum wage, the gap between that and the actual living wage is closed through better working conditions and better care. As you increase the livelihood of the caregiver, there is less need to put children in situations of child labour. That includes working with government, but also working with industry and looking at how we equip children and young people to apply for the gaps in the workforce that there will be as a result.
Looking at it holistically and looking at that community approach to providing the families and caregivers with those kinds of measures is something we're starting to pilot now in those two countries.
You also see a gender-responsive approach, where you have double duties on women. They might have to go to work for 12 to 18 hours a day, but then they also have their domestic duties, whereas men in many societies don't have that double burden. Focusing on women as the caregivers and ensuring their quality of life is such that they don't have to take on those double duties is essential to making sure we don't have children in child labour.