Okay. Now I can comment on that.
I appreciate the fact that the wording was put in, Mr. Zuberi. That makes a big difference. If it were not there, I think the danger would be that we could be too mechanistic. I know from my own experience of chairing this committee for seven or eight years that there are two kinds of witnesses.
You may have already discovered this, Mr. Chair. There are United Nations officials or other types of people who are polished professionals, members of the public service. They will practise and get everything down, and time themselves in front of a mirror or with a stopwatch. Then you get people who are here talking about their experience when they were imprisoned or when they were tortured, and that kind of thing. The rule I always had was that you don't interrupt something like that, and that was back when they had 10 minutes. You had to give people the time. It was often an extraordinarily traumatic experience they had gone through.
This is my way of saying—and I hope you and others will agree with me, Mr. Chair—that when we have that kind of witness, we exercise very considerable generosity in extending it by more than just one minute. It's a big deal for those folks.