I am going to offer, as we're in touch with him directly on text, that perhaps my colleague can send him a message with the question, if you'd like us to do that. We're happy to add something, but if you want to use your time to direct.... Okay.
I suppose the first thing to say is we think that Jimmy Lai's name should be on every Canadian ambassador's lips around the world whenever they're engaging with China. Now, that's an important thing to do because it's vital that it's not only when there's a discussion specifically about human rights, but at any time that you have the Chinese delegation in Davos or the Chinese delegation that you had for China's UPR in Geneva, Canada stands up for Jimmy Lai and for the issues that we've all been discussing today on every occasion.
It's also important that happens when trade is on the table because we know that one issue China and Hong Kong really care about is the idea of Hong Kong's continuing as an investment hub, a place where business can be done safely. It is vitally important that the message gets through to them, from Canada and from other like-minded states, that as long as they have Jimmy Lai—a Nelson Mandela type of figure—behind bars and they use the national security law in this way, they will not achieve that policy aim they want of Hong Kong's being an international investment hub, and of businesses continuing and returning. That's a key point we must get across.