I was going to say that it really is a long game. The response to these atrocities is multi-faceted, but the legal one is just as Chile said. If you look at the preamble to the Rome Statute, the idea is that you hold accountable those people who commit these atrocities. You make them accountable and, in doing so, you hope to deter future atrocities. Now, of course, that's not always going to work. Murders are still committed even though it's against the law in the Criminal Code, but each time you hold someone accountable, you build an atmosphere. You build a framework that's terribly important.
Why does everybody talk about the ICC every time there's a conflict? Why are we talking about war crimes in Ukraine now? That's because international criminal law is very much in the public mind. It's in your minds, as members of Parliament. This is extremely important because it's building a culture, an attitude and a morality, if you will, relating to warfare and all the rest of it. I think that's very important.
With respect to your other question, it really is important to support the International Criminal Court. Canada's doing that right now. There has been a remarkable response on the part of states parties, I understand, to the current situation in Ukraine. I did make the point that you can't earmark these things for Ukraine, but supporting the court allows it to take action of the sort I'm speaking about. I think that's very important. It's a long game.
Who thought Milošević would ever be in The Hague? Yet he was. Who thought that we'd ever get anywhere close to al-Bashir? We still don't have him at the ICC, but he's in detention in Khartoum. This is why I say you have to be patient. Some of the people convicted by the ICC escaped justice for seven or 10 years, but they were ultimately held accountable and that is what we have to do. We have to have the stamina and determination to hold people accountable for what they do. That's why it's important to support the International Criminal Court, and I'm so proud and glad that Canada is doing that now.