Yes, that's how it has operated from the very beginning.
I just want to point out that this is an emergency meeting, Mr. Julian. It's an emergency meeting, we're here, and it's very important that we work immediately on this. I'm ready, willing, and able, as I said. I'm offering the departmental officials to come not only this Tuesday so that we can work with them in advance, but also to have them return with the minister on July 31. As Mr. Mark Eyking has pointed out, the minister is extremely busy and he's coming here at the earliest date he can, July 31. So I offer up the departmental officials for Tuesday, in addition to being with the minister on July 31.