Evidence of meeting #36 for International Trade in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Mr. Julian, we have a motion that says we will complete this procedure tonight before midnight.
On that, Mr. Julian, as you know, that motion is out of order, but here's the situation. We have 68 amendments left. We have 62 clauses left. That's 130 votes in total, which means, when you work it through, that we have to start right now going directly to votes on the amendments and the clauses--without any debate whatsoever--to get through by midnight.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
We've passed the motion to do that, Mr. Julian, so this is just carrying out the will of the committee.
Yes, go ahead, Mr. Julian.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
I have a point of order, Mr. Chair. It is perfectly in order to move the motion of adjournment.
This committee may have made one decision. The committee could very easily make another decision, and as you pointed out, it would not be effective for us in doing our due diligence to continue to move through these motions without any debate.
I'm certainly not prepared to stop the debate, the pitiful little amount of sixty seconds, so I move the motion--
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Mr. Julian, as you know, the motion you have moved directly contradicts a motion that was passed by this committee earlier. You don't do that, Mr. Julian.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
The committee has the opportunity to do that, and you know that the motion is in order, Mr. Chair. It's in order, and I'd like to speak to it.
November 7th, 2006 / 6:45 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Everybody knows the routine for the decision of the chair to be sustained. We will now go to the recorded division on that.
(Chair's ruling sustained [See Minutes of Proceedings])
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
The ruling of the chair has been upheld.
We are now going to vote on these clauses. It's my responsibility as chair to ensure that the motion passed by the committee is actually fulfilled.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
I have a point of order. Are you saying there is no longer any debate on Bill C-24?
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Mr. Julian, there is an option, and the option would be that you would remove the need for recorded votes. That would leave more time for debate, but otherwise, Mr. Julian, it's the only way we're going to get through by midnight.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
Mr. Chair, you know that what you have proposed is not in order.
Conservative
NDP
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
--with recorded division on amendment NDP-42 on clause 65. It is on page 65.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Leon Benoit
Mr. Julian, if you go back to the same point of order, I will not entertain points of order from you in the future.
NDP
Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC
But you have stated there will no longer be any debate, anywhere. That's what you've stated. Have I understood you correctly?