On the R and D front, it's funny, because we have seen a pickup in terms of public spending on R and D in the last few years. The biggest challenge, though, is what you do with that R and D. That's the big question. A lot of the things we are seeing in terms of research and development in universities is either staying in universities or being sold abroad. We are not having the uptake here in Canada for these new technologies and new products that we could sell. The university strategy is that if they cannot get the local industries interested, then they will start their own little firm. You have a lot of startups and a lot of failures, or they end up selling their technology to a foreign company.
There are big issues around that.