I think so. Indonesia is very interested in expanding trade with Canada. We've had chats with the ambassador and his people. In terms of a market, it's the biggest potential market that we have in ASEAN, because there are so many people there.
Indonesia is like many of the countries in the region; its infrastructure varies depending on how far you are from the centres of population. But that's what's important, the centres of population. Yes, you have to move things around for 200 million people, but the population is there.
As for Brazil, I would say that the only place Brazil doesn't have infrastructure is in the northeast. If you go from Rio de Janeiro down to the bottom, down to Uruguay, it's just like you're in Europe.