Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Thank you, gentlemen, for your presentations today. It is a very interesting discussion, and I'm glad you do actually have a website where people can find the facts. I think that will be very helpful.
I may appear to be deviating a little from your presentation, but there's something I want clarified.
Mr. Fawcett, I see you are deputy director of U.S. relations. I'm going to tap into your wealth of information, if I can. You may not know, but we are in the process of discussing a motion at this committee, and I will suggest to you that I and my colleagues on this side of the committee find it factually incorrect. We're very concerned with this committee putting forward a motion that is factually incorrect. I would like your help with this. I won't read all of it, but probably the most relevant statement in it is:
—the Standing Committee recommend that the government quickly begin talks with its American and Mexican counterparts to exclude water from the scope of NAFTA—
To clarify your expertise, if we can, you are and have been involved in U.S. relations for some time. Can you give us an idea of how many years?