That's fine.
While he's doing that, there's something that I don't quite understand about the way this committee is functioning, and that is, while I see a big book called House of Commons Procedure and Practice by Marleau and Montpetit, and we have another book on parliamentary procedure and committee procedure, we seem to be able to override them at will. I think part of the problem we've had with this committee is that policy and procedure don't seem to matter. If the opposition wants it a certain way—if they want to say that black is white and white is black—they just vote, and so be it.
So I have a problem with this. I'm a new MP. In the House we follow policy and procedure. Why aren't we doing that here in committee? Why is it that it's cast aside so easily? I'm wondering if someone can explain that to me. It could be you, it could be the clerk, it could be—